Poisonous Metals

[curious_sb]

Lest us forget, LEAD is a toxic poison.

Its highly toxic and poisonous should not be used in any way that is liable to be ingested by the body. This includes the use of "fishing sinkers" or any other lead materials to create ball gags, butt plugs, or bit gags.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002473.htm

Still not sure? Ask yourself why bullets are made of lead? Its cheap, nasty and poisonous, so if the gunshot doesnt kill you the lead poisoning most probably will.

Quoted from CDINBONDS:


"Just handling lead can be dangerous. It is recommended that hands be washed immediately following any contact with lead. Also, lead exposed to water (or saliva) leaches toxins into the water. That is why lead based solder has been banned from use in water systems in the US. Lead based paint is no longer available either because it has been shown to cause brain damage if ingested."

[LoRee]

I found this post some what preposterous for several reasons. First as a United States Army trained small arms expert and armature historian I can tell you the reason lead was used in bullets is because; A) It is soft and easy to work with and it's mass projected even from an ancient sling has significant knock down power. B) It is cheap to use.
Secondly and more on topic, It is way too soft to use in any bondage toy save for wights like I personally use with my nipple clamps, or other such usage. I know of no one who would purposely coat their metal toys with an inferior or toxic substance. The only real danger of lead ingestation, and the one our moderator failed to mention, is from anal toys cast from lead crystal. Since it was discovered that lead was toxic, it has been proven that drinking from lead crystal glasses can cause lead poisoning. Like wise anything you insert into your rectum can be absorbed into your system. So the use of such, and I know a couple who thought it would be neat to stuff an antique lead crystal door knob up their bum, is certainly NOT the brightest of ideas to consider doing.
Lastly, it is true that you can absorb some trace elements of lead through your skin. But unless you regularly handle vast amounts of lead on a daily basis, you are no more likely to get lead poisoning from handling it than you are likely to get fat from handling animal fat.
Just be aware of this hazard and avoid it when ever possible.

[peter]

as a shooter and reloader I can tell you that casual handling of lead bullets is not hazardous. I don't swallow them, or otherwise insert them, of course. When lead poisoning does occur it is slow--lead poisoning will not take out the vicious thug you just shot in self-defense. Loss of blood, broken bones, hydrostatic shock and trauma to the nervous system all play roles, lead doesn't. Many people who have been shot either intentionally or by accident still carry the bullet(s) inside them--they encyst fairly soon and are then pretty harmless.
When cowboys and criminals in movies mention someone dying of "lead poisoning" it is sort of a sardonic joke.

[chicken_minute]

I slighly disagree with Peter, it's not dangerous to handle lead, but you must wash your hands thoroughly afterwards.

[mfx]

Also it's been illegal to make fishing weights out of lead for several years now. As for ammunition lead isn't selected for it's toxic effects, purely it's mass and ease of moulding. BTW as an electronics engineer I've been handling lead for many years (solder) and a while ago had my lead levels tested and they were fine however it's probably not the best material to make stuff out of. Lead is not absorbed readily by the skin it has to be injested to cause harm.

[curious_sb]

Thanks to everyone who corrected me (genuinely), like I said I'm no metals or firearms expert, I was always told lead was poisonous, then again that might be something I heard 27 years back in playshool to stop me chewing the pencils, even so they have graphite in them anyway people just call it lead, even so I still dont recommend lead to be used in gags or buttplugs etc...

[Warlock]

Yeah, lead is generally only dangerous when ingested or inhaled in quantity.

Though solder fumes can be a little bad for you heh

I seem to remember mercury, on the other hand, is much more readily absorbed through the skin.

[mfx]

Getting a little off topic now so this'll be my last post on the subject, solder fumes do not contain lead (my lead levels were tested for another reason, but it just so happens I handle lead daily as well). Lead does not produce fumes until it reaches about 500 deg C, pure lead melts at 3hundred and something degrees, solder melts lower than that. You may breath in some flux fumes but they don't copntain lead.[/quote]

[Warlock]

Getting a little off topic now so this'll be my last post on the subject, solder fumes do not contain lead (my lead levels were tested for another reason, but it just so happens I handle lead daily as well). Lead does not produce fumes until it reaches about 500 deg C, pure lead melts at 3hundred and something degrees, solder melts lower than that. You may breath in some flux fumes but they don't copntain lead.

[/quote]

Yeah, figures it'd be the other items in the mix... can still be pretty headache inducing though.

Then, of course, there is this whole RoHS stuff.

Oh btw, I'm back, you miss me?

[Sam-Ho]

Another metal to be wary of is nickel silver. Some of you probably know what I'm talking about, most probably are not. Nickel silver looks like silver, except its less malluable then silver, while being far cheaper and stronger. Containing no actual silver, the nickel in it could cause allergic reactions, which could turn skin green. Now yes, it may look cool, but for me, it itches like hell. And theres nothing worse then needing to find an excuse for why patches of skin were turned green by something made from cheap metal

[Grinser]

Yeah, just got that from a necklace. Put it on right after training and by the time I arrived back home, the sweat had attacked the coating and the whole area started feeling like I was getting mild electric shocks. Nothing dangerous though, after showering the itch was gone. Although I now have to find a new chain for my Mjolnir (the Hammer of Thor).

[Toszum]

Since it is my profession includes handling all kinds of metal I guess I can add my 2 cents here:

When thinking about toxicology one has to differenciate.

There are generally toxic metals like lead or copper. Those will cause trouble when consumed or in any other form absorbed into the body.
Even in small doses and for everybody alike.

Other kinds of metal that come into contact with skin of tissue are prone to cause allergies.

@ Grinser: Nickel silver is not a very noble metal but as long as you are not allergic to nickle you should be able to wear it as a chain.
However, I doubt that it was the sweat that attacked the coating of you chain but rather the salt ions in your sweat combined with your nickel silver chain and the mijolnir which is, I assume, not made of nickel silver.
Since if my assumption is true, the two different types of metal and the sweat would have served as a galvanic element (i.E.: a battery). In that case what you felt was indeed a mild electric current.

[Mc_ntk]

I would also like to add that fluoride in your toothpaste is toxic and should not be used for play.



EDIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Super glue (The kind that doesn't heat up and is safe for skin contact) has been causing cancer in rats!!!! So if you are going to use super glue for bondage (It makes a great time release it comes off in about 3-hours if you sweat about it (cheesy pun intended XD) to and couple days if you don't. Anyways make sure you get medical super glue that they use for wounds.

[teh-ah-tim-eh]

Floride is toxic but not all that toxic in tooth paste. Why on earth do we use it if it's that bad. Also quite oftern they use florine or chlorine in swiming pools, unless you drink alot your not going to die from it. I'm a part time life guard and at school i went swiming every other day, i'm not dead btw.

Also i brush my teeth 2 times a day and still not dead.

[Amy_Tenchi]

Floride is toxic but not all that toxic in tooth paste. Why on earth do we use it if it's that bad. Also quite oftern they use florine or chlorine in swiming pools, unless you drink alot your not going to die from it. I'm a part time life guard and at school i went swiming every other day, i'm not dead btw.

Also i brush my teeth 2 times a day and still not dead.

I might be wrong, but you aren't supposed to swallow the fluoride that you brush with. That's why they make different toothpastes for toddlers so that they can swallow it. (Works in a grocery store isle)