Types of cross-dressers?

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I've noticed that there are a lot of different types of cross-dressers. Some want to be able to pass as the opposite gender. Some just have a fetish for cross-dressing. Some even have a fetish for humiliation and cross-dress because it's "wrong". I personally like a combination of things about it. One, I like humiliation a lot so I tend to just wear clothing, no makeup or anything. I do have an interest in being able to pass if I wanted to so I'm trying to lose weight. Also, it's fun. You only get one life so why not have some fun while you're at it. And three, female clothing is more comfortable most of the time. If I can get away with it, I will wear a female version of something over a male version.

The second part of this is self-image and confidence. Some people regret cross-dressing and try to stop doing it. Some people are confident enough to wear a dress in public as if it was completely normal. And then some people legitimately want to be the opposite gender. What do all of you consider yourselves to be?
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Interesting question, and one that I've actually wondered about myself.
It's almost impossible to put on a label on every conceivable variation of the cross-dressing theme, since it varies so much from person to person.
Besides, is a female CEO in a power-suit a cross-dresser? :wink:

So speaking only for myself, I have no wish or desire to 'become' female for any particular length of time.
Nor is there any chance of me actually getting mistaken for female. Far too rugged, and I have distinctively male tattoos running up and down legs, arms and torso.
Or in other words, put me in a dress and I look exactly like what I am. A guy in a dress. :mrgreen:
I suppose I could improve on the look with body-shaping exercises, learning to do proper make-up and so on, but I'm not really willing to invest that kind of time in it.
I use cross-dressing as another item in my toolbox when I do solo-sessions.
Part of it is the 'humiliation' (for lack of a better term) but mostly it's conducive to getting into sub-space/slut-mode.
So its main function is as a psychological trigger, and less as a definite costume.

Which also manifests itself in my female wardrobe. It's not particularly large, but it's highly specialized.
Absolutely no heels below 4", no skirts/dresses that go further than mid-thigh (and quite a few that are a LOT shorter), and a choice of lingerie that would be unacceptable to most females, with the possible exception of full-time strippers. :rofl:

Then there's the question of whether I could live without it.
And I'm pretty sure I could. If I ever end up in some sort of steady relationship, I'm fairly confident that I could lock the whole shebang into a box and forget about it.
I certainly have no desire to dress up while there are others around, since I'm keenly aware of what I look like. :mrgreen:
On the other hand, while I'm single I see no reason not to enjoy myself.
Far too much of a hedonist to start pondering the moral and psychological intricacies of my particular fetishes.
Not to mention that life's too fucking short. :D

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SissyJuli wrote:What do all of you consider yourselves to be?
Human... in the end, the rest of the labels don't really fit.

Fetish dressing only works while you can play on some negative emotional context while dressed, or dressed in the particular way.

When that goes, due to exposure, then what is left is your true need or likes.
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gemt wrote: Human... in the end, the rest of the labels don't really fit.
I don't like labels either. I just want to see how diverse this whole subject is. I am very interested in sociology and psychology, especially around LGBTQ stuff. I am most interested in Transsexuals and Cross-dressers though. Especially how they fit with the other LGBTQ people. That's why I made this post. To try to lean some things first hand.
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SissyJuli wrote:
gemt wrote: Human... in the end, the rest of the labels don't really fit.
I don't like labels either. I just want to see how diverse this whole subject is. I am very interested in sociology and psychology, especially around LGBTQ stuff. I am most interested in Transsexuals and Cross-dressers though. Especially how they fit with the other LGBTQ people. That's why I made this post. To try to lean some things first hand.
The easy answer is "we" don't fit with LGB.
LGBTQ* is just an umbrella for all who do not conform to societal gender and sexual expectations. I am reasonably happy to use these terms in limited setting, but it is important to concentrate on positive descriptive labels, not on negative comparative labels. If there is Gay/Homo, there is Strait/Hetro; If there is TransG there is CisG. Which is why we end up with a stupidly long acronym which more describes the differences between its members than it does the non-members.
Transgenderism is not about sexuality, primarily, therefore is distinct from and apart from LGB.
L G are, of course different, but with a moment's thought, L can understand the motivations of G and vice-versa, and B is a fairly obvious variation.
Ts may be straight, gay, only play when dressed, or anything in between. GQs go round saying "don't label me!!!" and get on with their lives. I wish I were that brave!
That doesn't mean we don't get on, but it can be difficult to explain the distinction that we are at the LGB(tq*) event because it is a safe environment, not necessarily to find a partner...

T/Q itself is a large umbrella. Of course there are also a number of subdivisions of LG apart from the one obvious one...
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I hate labels. They are usually stuck on people by others who know them so little. Add to the fact that those people are impatiently trying to figure everyone out so quickly. People are not meant to be "figured out". I find that submitting or admitting to, or accepting a label is not self discovery either.
People are people. If you want to know, ask them. I thank goodness that labels have a way of unsticking and falling off.
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I'm not sure if I even cross-dress but for me, I love wearing what I do because it is comfortable.
In summertime, it is usually leggings and a long t-shirt that covers the crotch.
I have different colors, but if I am going out to shop, usually both top and bottom are black.
I think it looks neat, but others might find a 75-year old guy dressed that way as ludicrous.
Or sick? I admit (but not to my wife) that humiliation is something which is not avoided.
What is avoided is doing this where i might run into someone I know.
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It is probably the exhilaration of doing that which you are not expected to do. You are not a cross dresser. You are Arthur. There is no way to define you. People will have to get to know you to understand who Arthur is. Nevermind what others think of your private dress. Do what feels right. Or wrong. That's the advice I can offer on my degree from Wossamotta U
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It has been a while since I last left a post. If you live in the Portland Metro area in Oregon then your familiar with the comon phraze "Keep Portland weird." Portland also has an event known as "Pride Fest." I'm not sure when that is exactly, but I think its in mid to late May or Early June. You can do an online search by typing "Portland Pride Fest" and there will be a website about the event. I think there is an option to volantear for taking part in the activitis or to join a group in the parade. You don't have to be Gay, Lesbian, or transegender to take part in it and it's free to the public. It's an all week end event where anyone can dress any way they want whithout the feeling of regret or embarisment. After all Its Portland and weird is accepted. I wore askirt at the event two years ago for the first time. I was nervous about it at first but everyone was okay with it. My sister would never eccept it. We were not raised that way. She wouldn't understand that is how I show my support for those who are transgenger. If only all Miliatary branches can be as understanding. I cheeted When wearing the skirt. I was wearing shorts under it. Maybe this time it won't be shorts under the skirt but regular underwear that's the same collar. As I said in earier posts I am very reluctent when it comes to wearing a skirt in Public so I say If someone really wants me to wear a skirt, they would have to make sure I can't get it off then I would have to wear it all Summer long 24/7. I could go as far as incerting a chain in the waist band but someone else would have to provide the padlock with no key and maybe throw in a pair of locking high heels for good measure. If it were to be a dress, it would have to be locked on. This would be a good way for women to trick a boy friend into wearing a dress to a Halloween party if the dress is one that zips up in the back and has a collar snug around the neck then it's just a matter of sewing two small metal rings on the collar with a needle and kite string so all you would need is a snall padlock but leave the key at home so when you and your boy friend arrive at the party ask him to turn around so you can check the collar then lock the zipper to the rings and then he's trapped. later you can tell him somethings come up and you need to head home immeadiately and leave him at the party stuck in the dress and has to wear it all the way home.
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Wayne, you may go with none of my judgement, all of my support. Moreover, I admire your courage of tilting the windmills against family stigma.
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Just a personal opinion, and I'm not knocking anyone, but a comment on Wayne's post content.

The idea of being locked into clothes is part of a fantasy scenario (nothing wrong with that!) but unless you are into titanium, welding and armour plate, anything locked on can be unlocked, and even those materials will crack if enough equipment is thrown at them!

There are trade-offs.

In a partnered play situation, you can be "forced" to wear some clothes, even locked into them, but BDSM play is always with consent - no consent = abuse =crime. You agree to being "forced".

In solo play, you trade the damage you will cause to your clothes by taking an "unauthorised" release, instead ofthe penalty of using the key on your front gate, or taped to somewhere that means you wait till dark to retrieve it, or the time-safe opens.

I found my opportunity to cross-dress in the company of others by going to play-parties. Attitudes varied from "oh, OK" through to "you look great" but never critical or unpleasant. As I never went to the extent of wigs and make-up, I was always a man in womens' clothes, and only on one occasion, with my then sub/play-partner went for a meal wearing my usual "uniform" but with trousers instead of a skirt. On the other hand, a pal of mine would dress fully, and go into the public domain (even if he did look like what he was, a trucker in a dress - he didn't care!). Or the guys who really went the whole way and you would really have to look VERY closely to guess they were male - they happily went wherever they wished in public.

I think it all comes down to how you look cross-dressed - a passable "woman", you have a lot of self-confidence so you don't care, in a place that accepts cross-dressing, or you keep it solo.

But in the end, do what you enjoy!
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Despite the OP having been away since Oct 2016 it seems there may be life here so here go's:

My experience and that of nearly all I have discussed this with is that cross-dressing seems to be a progression thing. All sorts of people do it, so I believe there's a latent tendency to do it but it needs a trigger to bring to the surface. There are countless triggers but the result is always wearing clothes aimed at 'women' being worn by 'men' and vice-versa. After a lifetime of repression, depression, under achievement, and misery ending in a nervous breakdown I was positively identified as a transgender person.
So I'm unusual in that I intend to present as female all the time at some stage. However going to a Party with a corset, heels, stockings, make-up, and a long wig showed that there was a sexual element, so it does turn me on. Most of my friends are female now and a chat afterwards revealed they feel the same. One thing I've noticed is that nearly all the trans people I've met have cross-dressed at some point, often venturing outside very soon after starting.

As a final thought consider this: I have had weight issues all my life. Starting to cross-dress was the incentive to address my weight, fitness, and other things. I want to look good as a female. That's a powerful incentive for me, it may help you as well?
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Gender does seem kind of obsolete here, and I have read what I perceive as "Genderless" posting, in that, some here will not identify either way. Staying fit is a great idea, no matter the motivation, however, having a goal can make it an actual reality. I say go for it, Natasha.
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Shannon SteelSlave wrote:Gender does seem kind of obsolete here...... Staying fit is a great idea, no matter the motivation, however, having a goal can make it an actual reality. I say go for it, Natasha.
Thank You Shannon. One day all these labels will be de-weaponised into nouns like 'cloudy' 'cold' and 'bigoted'....but not in my lifetime I fear. I live in a second floor flat and could barely get upstairs without gasping for air. 6 weeks in and I'm still the same BUT only when lugging two big bags of shopping, I'm still over the limit of my scales but am nearly there, very soon I'll get a weight displayed and know that's 120 pounds gone. Yep at 6 feet tall I was just shy of 450 pounds in weight. Madness. My target is 150-160 as suggested by the very nice people at Loughborough University who I am a guinea pig/ training aid for. I can highly recommend yoga as a good exercise BTW.
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Feel free to let us know of your progress, Natasha. I will do my best to always be encouraging. You don't have to report anything you don't want to. Just reinforce the positives, and let the negatives go without words to establish them. Can we try that?
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