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Selfboudn 2000 has a new server, so the address changed.
Just curious as to how you choose what star ranking to give the links on your site. I only ask because some like Gromets Plaza has a photo gallery of supposed self bondage pics showing women tied that could in no way be self bound. I enjoy regular bondage as much if not more. But don't like being shown stuff that is supposed to be self bondage that I can not replicate by myself. Theirs is not the only self bondage site I have seen that does this deceitful practice. 
"I find it far more annoying when the universe makes me work for damnation. I prefer it just gave it to me and save me the effort"
Oops, how did I miss this question? 
The stars are based only on my personal thoughts about the site. Gromets Plaza is the number one selfbondage site and I think that it is worth 5 stars as a selfbondage site. No where else can you find so much stories, photos and information about selfbondage as on the Plaza.
Do not look strictly to the stars, all five stars means is that I know of no better site at the moment. Grading sites is always hard and always unfair.
How many star would you give www.boundanna.com in comparison to the other selfbondage sites?
The stars are based only on my personal thoughts about the site. Gromets Plaza is the number one selfbondage site and I think that it is worth 5 stars as a selfbondage site. No where else can you find so much stories, photos and information about selfbondage as on the Plaza.
Do not look strictly to the stars, all five stars means is that I know of no better site at the moment. Grading sites is always hard and always unfair.
How many star would you give www.boundanna.com in comparison to the other selfbondage sites?
At the risk of sounding like a total suck up, I seriously think Bound Anna to be a Superior self bondage site to Gromets Plaza. The problem I have with Gromets Plaza's self bondage photo gallery is it is so fake. I have yet to see an actual self bondage tie there that I can replicate. 
If Gromets Plaza is really worth five stars, then bound Anna would HAVE to be six stars.
If Gromets Plaza is really worth five stars, then bound Anna would HAVE to be six stars.
"I find it far more annoying when the universe makes me work for damnation. I prefer it just gave it to me and save me the effort"
I understand, and respect your thoughts but still want to continue this discussion.
Fake things are never fun but it is not easy to receive material from someone else and add it to the site. If the submitter says it is selfbondage then you either believe it or call the submitter a liar. I really do not know what photos you are referring to, I seldom view the galleries.
I recently received a photo from the creator of this site http://fetish.pornparks.com/autobond/. And I could not see how it could possibly be selfbondage, it looked far too complicated. But the creator informed me that everything is really self-done and I believe that. I personally could never recreate those bounds even with help from someone else but some people are really good at working with ropes. What I am trying to say is that it is often very hard to judge if a photo is fake or not.
Another issue with selfbondage photos is that it does not feel as genuine when someone is standing next to the person, taking those photos. It removes some of the excitement of the photo, at least for me. A poor quality photo from a webcam is often much better than a sharp crystal clear photo from a system camera since it gives a feeling that the subject was in fact alone. (I am talking about general selfbondage photos here.)
On to the question of stars. Look at “Quality Linksâ€
Fake things are never fun but it is not easy to receive material from someone else and add it to the site. If the submitter says it is selfbondage then you either believe it or call the submitter a liar. I really do not know what photos you are referring to, I seldom view the galleries.
I recently received a photo from the creator of this site http://fetish.pornparks.com/autobond/. And I could not see how it could possibly be selfbondage, it looked far too complicated. But the creator informed me that everything is really self-done and I believe that. I personally could never recreate those bounds even with help from someone else but some people are really good at working with ropes. What I am trying to say is that it is often very hard to judge if a photo is fake or not.
Another issue with selfbondage photos is that it does not feel as genuine when someone is standing next to the person, taking those photos. It removes some of the excitement of the photo, at least for me. A poor quality photo from a webcam is often much better than a sharp crystal clear photo from a system camera since it gives a feeling that the subject was in fact alone. (I am talking about general selfbondage photos here.)
On to the question of stars. Look at “Quality Linksâ€
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Just paid that site a visit and I have to say I have to agree on the above statement. If its true I would REALLY like to see a video of HOW this was done....Anna wrote:http://fetish.pornparks.com/autobond/. And I could not see how it could possibly be selfbondage, it looked far too complicated.
http://fetish.pornparks.com/autobond/d327i7.htm
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I'm sorry Anna but I have to disagree for this reason; Bond Anna is a dedicated self bondage site, much like a specialty shop. Where as Gromets Plaza is a comprehensive fetish/bondage site, more like a kinky Wal-mart. If you stripped the Plazza of everything except it's self bondage content, Bound Anna would be superior or at the very least equal to Gromets Plaza.
As for fake self bondage photos, next time you are there, or any other self bondage site with photos, look to see how tightly the arms are bound behind the person doing the self bondage in question. Some of the bondage models have their elbows completely together, and/or cinch wraps around wrist and elbow tie that no one could possibly work onto themselves. Even the few you see that are plausible (but not likely) are poorly demonstrated.
As for fake self bondage photos, next time you are there, or any other self bondage site with photos, look to see how tightly the arms are bound behind the person doing the self bondage in question. Some of the bondage models have their elbows completely together, and/or cinch wraps around wrist and elbow tie that no one could possibly work onto themselves. Even the few you see that are plausible (but not likely) are poorly demonstrated.
"I find it far more annoying when the universe makes me work for damnation. I prefer it just gave it to me and save me the effort"
Here are some examples, from the link in your post Anna, I am talking about. There is NO WAY IN HELL that this person tie these knots behind themself by him/her self.
Now this one maybe. But compaire it to the previous examples to see what I mean
Now this one you can plainly tell he/she could work his/her hands into or out of the bindings. However, there is no way they could have done the rest of that inticate rope work high up behind their back like that by themselves.
Now this one maybe. But compaire it to the previous examples to see what I mean
Now this one you can plainly tell he/she could work his/her hands into or out of the bindings. However, there is no way they could have done the rest of that inticate rope work high up behind their back like that by themselves.
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"I find it far more annoying when the universe makes me work for damnation. I prefer it just gave it to me and save me the effort"
Well, I did not think that the ties on that site were possible either before having some short correspondence with the person on those photos. I am now convinced that it is in fact possible. The rope work you se is very complicated and sophisticated. Pulling one single rope that is positioned close to the hands tightens it all up.
(I would never have used that site as an example if I were not 100% certain that it was genuine. I absolutely do not want to start a discussion about the work of other people or what other sites contain. I am terribly sorry if I in any way have cast doubts on the work of someone else.)
(I would never have used that site as an example if I were not 100% certain that it was genuine. I absolutely do not want to start a discussion about the work of other people or what other sites contain. I am terribly sorry if I in any way have cast doubts on the work of someone else.)
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Yes LoRee those were the pics I saw, It not SB, definately, your comments and summing up says it all.
The only thing I can think of that they can get away with calling it selfbound, is to use two separate words, Self (me) Bound(tied up) but not necessarily "selfbound" (tied by self).
Still I agree its a con for the pure of heart selfbinder to see such acts of purgery.
Also - note the amount of pressure the rope places on the upper arms, it has to have been done by someone else.
Also note first picture: its quite comical to see the dress, shaved arms, back (oo wait) hairy legs!!!
The only thing I can think of that they can get away with calling it selfbound, is to use two separate words, Self (me) Bound(tied up) but not necessarily "selfbound" (tied by self).
Still I agree its a con for the pure of heart selfbinder to see such acts of purgery.
Also - note the amount of pressure the rope places on the upper arms, it has to have been done by someone else.
Also note first picture: its quite comical to see the dress, shaved arms, back (oo wait) hairy legs!!!
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I have pulled ONE of those underneath the arm cinches on a round the shoulder rope coil (like in the first photo), but two that far apart??? So let's say for arguments sake it can be done, where are the loose ends that would be left hanging? Even when I do a tight noose wrist cinch there is a tell tale loose end dangling. Even if the phtographer innocently tucked it in for aesthetics, it's still a cheat as it leaves us no clue as to HOW he/she did it.
After viewing both of Nancy's "Self Bondage Techniques" demonstration galleries, I am even less convinced of their authenticity. However, I intend to take Anna's advice and contact Nancy myself to see if he/she is just inadequately explaining him/her self of just full of it. Anything is possible, I just want to find out what is probable. "Just the facts Ma'am, just the facts."
After viewing both of Nancy's "Self Bondage Techniques" demonstration galleries, I am even less convinced of their authenticity. However, I intend to take Anna's advice and contact Nancy myself to see if he/she is just inadequately explaining him/her self of just full of it. Anything is possible, I just want to find out what is probable. "Just the facts Ma'am, just the facts."
"I find it far more annoying when the universe makes me work for damnation. I prefer it just gave it to me and save me the effort"
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I have to say I think it unlikely that all the pics were self-tied, particularly the 1st one.
I think curious_sb's definition of bound self the most likely explanation.
However on closer inspection, I think that it would be possible to achieve these self-ties. Granted it would take a lot of time and patience, and you'd have to be supple. Also I can't understand why someone would go to that trouble, as if you were to self tie like this, to make the ties look good for the photo's you'd have to conceal the loose ends behind your hands or arms, therefore the ends couldn't be securely tied in a knot somewhere out of your reach, thereby creating the illusion of being tightly self bound, but actually not being.
To make the bindings appear tighter you could push your arms against the rope to enhance that effect. Also without seeing the front, although the illusion is given that this is one long well-tied rope, it may be several pieces held by easy to undo knots at the front, like a magician's trick if you will.
I'm not saying it is or it isn't, just surmising how the illusion could be created. I may even try to prove this theory (to myself, out of curiosity if for no other reason) one day if I have the time and nothing else to do.
I think curious_sb's definition of bound self the most likely explanation.
However on closer inspection, I think that it would be possible to achieve these self-ties. Granted it would take a lot of time and patience, and you'd have to be supple. Also I can't understand why someone would go to that trouble, as if you were to self tie like this, to make the ties look good for the photo's you'd have to conceal the loose ends behind your hands or arms, therefore the ends couldn't be securely tied in a knot somewhere out of your reach, thereby creating the illusion of being tightly self bound, but actually not being.
To make the bindings appear tighter you could push your arms against the rope to enhance that effect. Also without seeing the front, although the illusion is given that this is one long well-tied rope, it may be several pieces held by easy to undo knots at the front, like a magician's trick if you will.
I'm not saying it is or it isn't, just surmising how the illusion could be created. I may even try to prove this theory (to myself, out of curiosity if for no other reason) one day if I have the time and nothing else to do.
Bound Anna's
For my part Anna's is a way better site for selfbondage than the plaza, it's dedicated to just that whilst the plaza is more orientated towards stories.
I would refer people to the technique section of Bound Anna's site as being more comprehensive.
The galleries are just an incidental part of the site, all the pictures have been sent to me and show women binding themselves. I'm not sure what gallery is referred to here, there are several on the plaza. I'm sure that the girls like Dee, Bab's and Kitty Paige would be upset to hear that their pictures were not selfbondage.
But then why don't people write and say these things to me, I rarely get any correspondence from viewers, I'm always open to suggestions, ideas etc as Anna would be too.
Without feedback from the very people who view our websites we don't know if we're doing okay, totally stuffing up or going in the wrong direction. Please let your favorite websites know how you feel about them, that's way they won't just give up and go away.
I would refer people to the technique section of Bound Anna's site as being more comprehensive.
The galleries are just an incidental part of the site, all the pictures have been sent to me and show women binding themselves. I'm not sure what gallery is referred to here, there are several on the plaza. I'm sure that the girls like Dee, Bab's and Kitty Paige would be upset to hear that their pictures were not selfbondage.
But then why don't people write and say these things to me, I rarely get any correspondence from viewers, I'm always open to suggestions, ideas etc as Anna would be too.
Without feedback from the very people who view our websites we don't know if we're doing okay, totally stuffing up or going in the wrong direction. Please let your favorite websites know how you feel about them, that's way they won't just give up and go away.
