Re: MODERATOR WARNING: ELECTROSTIMULATION DEVICES
Posted: 18 Apr 2016, 06:59
I LOVE playing with electricity. Love it love it love it. I have a fair bit of knowledge of electronics too(but nowhere near the amount to say I'm "trained" or anything like that). When I was quite young (< 10 yo) I discovered my grandma's TENs unit. I didn't do anything kinky with it, but I did play with it and learned I really like the feeling of electricity. So it was only natural that later I wanted to do kinky things with it I remember when I was first wanting to try estim probably 10 years later that I saw how tos and ideas on the internet to make a device with an audio amplifier. I knew immediately that was a seriously BAD idea. Almost no isolation from the mains, no real idea what type of current you are dealing with, totally not designed for use on the body and so on and so forth. Unfortunately I don't have a lot of money, so at the time I couldn't buy a device to play with.
And as much as it sucked, I simply waited. And if you are in that situation - YOU SHOULD TOO. Fortunately nowadays you can get TENs units on like Amazon for pretty cheap. BUT I question how well some of those are made. I dunno, I mean I like the feeling of electricity lots as I've said. But I also like being alive. I might trust some suspicious Chinese company to make a video game controller for me, but a device that will literally be running electricity through my body? I don't think so. Get a good, made for play unit made by a well known company. That's my recommendation.
Anyway eventually I did buy a made for play unit, one which I still have today. I did do one modification to it. It nominally runs on a 9v battery, but I modified it to run on mains power through a wall wart transformer. Said transformer is 12v which gives it an extra kick. However, since we are in a safety oriented thread I'm wondering if that was a really good idea... Well, I've been using it for many years like that and it hasn't killed me obviously. I've measured the output with my multimeter and it's certainly within safe limits. It should be good.
Anyway what I really wanted to discuss is this. One of my hang ups with estim is that I VERY MUCH want to put stuff on my nipples. I love nipple play, I love electricity so of course I want to combine them. Now, I've seen LOTS of disagreements on whether this is a good idea or not, but the most sensible advice seems to be to only do it with bipolar electrodes(i.e. such that electricity flows through the nipple, not from one nipple to the other). But the problem is that only hurts. It doesn't give me the feeling I want.
Anyway fast forward a few years from when I bought that made for play unit. I have some serious back problems and I was prescribed a TENs unit by my doctor. (Yay, another toy to play with!). I have both lower and upper back pain. Because of the aforementioned advice(no electricity across the chest), I asked my doctor. I asked him if I could use the TENs on my upper back or if that could affect my heart.
What he told me was that TENs units are designed to be used with the human body and there are only a few limitations to where you can use them. Not on the head or face, not directly on bones which are right under the surface of the skin(e.g. like your spine or kneecap), not on broken skin. According to that doctor(and a neurologist I asked later) - it was perfectly fine to use the TENs on my back, even if the path would cross where my heart was. The original doctor told me the only way a TENs might affect my heart is if I put one pad on the front, one on the back, directly over my heart. Obviously I've no reason to do that.
Now, basing on that information, since that point in time I have used the device on my nipples. Yes, in the bad way - from nipple to nipple. I don't do it super often, but sometimes my horniness gets the best of me. I do take comfort in what those doctors told me. If it's safe to use on my BACK where the current path crosses my chest, it should be safe on the front I think.
But just in case I will say I'm not recommending that anyone take this as advice. IT IS TOTALLY NOT ADVICE. I'm only just relaying my experiences. We all do stupid shit when we are horny sometimes I think. Remember, it's your LIFE on the line here. Is cumming really really hard worth it if it's the last time you ever cum? I don't think so. 100s of good orgasms is better than 1 really great one that got you killed.
However as I said we all do stupid shit when we are horny. And information is power. So I did want to relay what I heard from those doctors, because I think it's useful and it makes sense. FWIW, I do use my proper TENs on my back for pain, and I do use it on my upper back where it crosses my heart, and that obviously hasn't killed me either.
Whether that sort of risk is one you are willing to take is up to you. But make no mistake - IT IS A RISK. Even if a perfectly functional and okay TENs unit couldn't kill you at all by playing with it this way, yours might not be perfectly functional. Mine might not be. Or it could develop a fault. Even batteries can put out a fair amount of amps, so it's possible for the unit to fail and produce a stimulation way outside of spec. A dangerous stimulation. They SHOULD be designed in a failsafe way, but you never know right?
And as much as it sucked, I simply waited. And if you are in that situation - YOU SHOULD TOO. Fortunately nowadays you can get TENs units on like Amazon for pretty cheap. BUT I question how well some of those are made. I dunno, I mean I like the feeling of electricity lots as I've said. But I also like being alive. I might trust some suspicious Chinese company to make a video game controller for me, but a device that will literally be running electricity through my body? I don't think so. Get a good, made for play unit made by a well known company. That's my recommendation.
Anyway eventually I did buy a made for play unit, one which I still have today. I did do one modification to it. It nominally runs on a 9v battery, but I modified it to run on mains power through a wall wart transformer. Said transformer is 12v which gives it an extra kick. However, since we are in a safety oriented thread I'm wondering if that was a really good idea... Well, I've been using it for many years like that and it hasn't killed me obviously. I've measured the output with my multimeter and it's certainly within safe limits. It should be good.
Anyway what I really wanted to discuss is this. One of my hang ups with estim is that I VERY MUCH want to put stuff on my nipples. I love nipple play, I love electricity so of course I want to combine them. Now, I've seen LOTS of disagreements on whether this is a good idea or not, but the most sensible advice seems to be to only do it with bipolar electrodes(i.e. such that electricity flows through the nipple, not from one nipple to the other). But the problem is that only hurts. It doesn't give me the feeling I want.
Anyway fast forward a few years from when I bought that made for play unit. I have some serious back problems and I was prescribed a TENs unit by my doctor. (Yay, another toy to play with!). I have both lower and upper back pain. Because of the aforementioned advice(no electricity across the chest), I asked my doctor. I asked him if I could use the TENs on my upper back or if that could affect my heart.
What he told me was that TENs units are designed to be used with the human body and there are only a few limitations to where you can use them. Not on the head or face, not directly on bones which are right under the surface of the skin(e.g. like your spine or kneecap), not on broken skin. According to that doctor(and a neurologist I asked later) - it was perfectly fine to use the TENs on my back, even if the path would cross where my heart was. The original doctor told me the only way a TENs might affect my heart is if I put one pad on the front, one on the back, directly over my heart. Obviously I've no reason to do that.
Now, basing on that information, since that point in time I have used the device on my nipples. Yes, in the bad way - from nipple to nipple. I don't do it super often, but sometimes my horniness gets the best of me. I do take comfort in what those doctors told me. If it's safe to use on my BACK where the current path crosses my chest, it should be safe on the front I think.
But just in case I will say I'm not recommending that anyone take this as advice. IT IS TOTALLY NOT ADVICE. I'm only just relaying my experiences. We all do stupid shit when we are horny sometimes I think. Remember, it's your LIFE on the line here. Is cumming really really hard worth it if it's the last time you ever cum? I don't think so. 100s of good orgasms is better than 1 really great one that got you killed.
However as I said we all do stupid shit when we are horny. And information is power. So I did want to relay what I heard from those doctors, because I think it's useful and it makes sense. FWIW, I do use my proper TENs on my back for pain, and I do use it on my upper back where it crosses my heart, and that obviously hasn't killed me either.
Whether that sort of risk is one you are willing to take is up to you. But make no mistake - IT IS A RISK. Even if a perfectly functional and okay TENs unit couldn't kill you at all by playing with it this way, yours might not be perfectly functional. Mine might not be. Or it could develop a fault. Even batteries can put out a fair amount of amps, so it's possible for the unit to fail and produce a stimulation way outside of spec. A dangerous stimulation. They SHOULD be designed in a failsafe way, but you never know right?