Electronic timer lock: Someone tried it yet?

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gogglestars2 wrote:It's not amazingly secure, but secure enough that if you're locked to something sturdy, you'll need tools to get out. Set it up so you can't smash the lock against something, and you can't reach tools, and you'll either be stuck, or you're strong enough to get out of most anything that isn't overbuilt.
I figured that if there's a bit of slack, a really sharp tug will sheer the plastic latch and/or break the cable out of the housing. Which would be why all the pics on the AliExpress sites show the device securing padlockable buckles and not joining things that are likely to be put under direct stress.
Goes without saying, "have a backup release" for these.
A decent pair of side (diagonal) cutters will make pretty short work of the cable - a good emergency release if breaking your toys is sufficient incentive to not escape under normal circumstances.
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Shin wrote:I used some simple craft glue. The sounds were muffled, but I think the glue spilled through and caused shortening of the display.
I would recommend using acid free silicone. Because of its elasticity is dampens sound much better than some hardening glue and because it's acid free it will not interfere with electronics.
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Haven't used that type but I have used electric magnets that are powered by ac and when the power is off you are freed. I hook my electromagnets up to a timer set at various times, any where from 10 minutes to one hour.
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A saw these some where else... Glad I could find an honest review. ;)

They are on ebay.
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ruru67 (upthread a bit) wrote: I'd like the beep to be quieter - a soft pip to tell you something is happening would be nice, but the buzzer is obnoxiously loud.
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There's a hole for the sound to come out on the back, and just covering it makes a difference. Poking a piece of wire through the hole and into the buzzer itself quietens it down a lot. I suspect that filling the buzzer with glue will get it so that it's polite without shutting it up completely.

But killing the buzzer completely by chopping a wire to or removing it completely is also an option.
Well, I popped three out of four of mine open (one was in use at the time, and I didn't want to risk accidentally killing it while locked...). On two of them, I unsoldered a wire from the buzzer (leaving the end covered to avoid embarrassing short circuits), put them back together and put epoxy over the screws. The third I put epoxy in the hole over the buzzer (and epoxied the screws).

This had the desired effects on all three; I'd still like the buzzer to be quieter on the one I covered rather than silencing, but it is a little less obnoxious.

And here's why I'd like some sound: I was messing with gags tonight, put a fairly strict one on, and set one of the silenced timers for 10 minutes. And after 10 minutes, and getting impatient, I looked at it in the mirror, and found the damn thing had another hour to run! I forced the gag out (leaving it dangling around me neck). I figure I must have squeezed the hour button by mistake sometime between setting the timer and starting it.

Having a beep would have alerted me to an unintentional time change. So I suggest that if you're putting these things where you can't see them to double check the time before hitting the start button, use one with the beep still enabled.
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ruru67 wrote:
ruru67 (upthread a bit) wrote: I'd like the beep to be quieter - a soft pip to tell you something is happening would be nice, but the buzzer is obnoxiously loud.
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There's a hole for the sound to come out on the back, and just covering it makes a difference. Poking a piece of wire through the hole and into the buzzer itself quietens it down a lot. I suspect that filling the buzzer with glue will get it so that it's polite without shutting it up completely.

But killing the buzzer completely by chopping a wire to or removing it completely is also an option.
Well, I popped three out of four of mine open (one was in use at the time, and I didn't want to risk accidentally killing it while locked...). On two of them, I unsoldered a wire from the buzzer (leaving the end covered to avoid embarrassing short circuits), put them back together and put epoxy over the screws. The third I put epoxy in the hole over the buzzer (and epoxied the screws).

This had the desired effects on all three; I'd still like the buzzer to be quieter on the one I covered rather than silencing, but it is a little less obnoxious.

And here's why I'd like some sound: I was messing with gags tonight, put a fairly strict one on, and set one of the silenced timers for 10 minutes. And after 10 minutes, and getting impatient, I looked at it in the mirror, and found the damn thing had another hour to run! I forced the gag out (leaving it dangling around me neck). I figure I must have squeezed the hour button by mistake sometime between setting the timer and starting it.

Having a beep would have alerted me to an unintentional time change. So I suggest that if you're putting these things where you can't see them to double check the time before hitting the start button, use one with the beep still enabled.
did you try to put a resistor in series with the buzzer to reduce the volume?
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occorics wrote:did you try to put a resistor in series with the buzzer to reduce the volume?
I thought about that just after I glued them together ... maybe I'll try that with the remaining one. There should be a pot or two in my bits boxes to find a good value.
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The padlock has a silent mode ... just press and hold the middle button until 1 beep sounds and confirm if it works by going up to the minute.
Did not it come with instructions?
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axl64 wrote:The padlock has a silent mode ... just press and hold the middle button until 1 beep sounds and confirm if it works by going up to the minute.
Did not it come with instructions?
Mine did come with instructions but those didn't mention a silent mode. I've tested and this doesn't work on mine, so apparently there is an updated version out now.
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I got one, I works quite well. I set the time and press a button and and locked in for up to 9 hours.
If there is a problem with it, it would be that it probably isn't that durable. If you struggle too hard I could imagine it will break. Also you would need an additional escape method if anything happens to the mechanism.
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mymy42 wrote:Can you also check what happens if there is no more battery?

I'm afraid to guess that if you hear anything unlocking sound, it might need power to move the motor and unlock the chain, which adds some danger while using the device.
It comes with a charger, I always charge it first :)
It makes a strange buzzing sound when it unlocks. It also peeps when you press one of the buttons, but I have muted it.
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Gregovic wrote:And just as importantly, does the timer restart or can the lock be unlocked if the battery is empty and external power is supplied.
It appears to reset completely when the battery dies, so it'll come back to life thinking it's unlocked. It doesn't appear to save any state to non-volatile memory like the Kitchen Safe does. Of course the Kitchen Safe has accessible batteries, whereas with this lock you can only disconnect the battery or otherwise power it off by opening it up.

One of mine is unhappy, and doesn't seem to be taking a full charge. So I've had a bit of a play to see what it does when it's low on charge. I locked it twice when the display was flashing, the second time with a two hour delay, and both times is unlocked successfully. In a third test much later (with the display very weak) it died when it tried to lock. So for short scenes it looks like you should be OK as long as the display isn't flashing. For longer scenes, I'd be sure to top up the charge before locking up.

If was actually locked, that means just setting the timer for one minute, "locking" it, and waiting for it to unlock, i.e. the same procedure as if you were holding the unlock button when it unlocked and jammed it from unlocking properly. You can do this while the charger is connected, so you don't have to wait for it to charge.

Of course none of this helps if you can't get it to a charger. I figure possible emergency escape methods include cutting with side cutters, brute force, or twisting the lock around so the twisted cable eventually pulls out.
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Further information on these (early ones at least, and probably also the ones that have a "silence beeper" function)

When battery is low, they can start going nuts beeping... sometimes AFTER they lock. Charging them with a cell-phone wall charger may not work, I wound up using a USB port on my computer for charging.

Remove the plastic display cover (with sharp knife or fingernail), there are 2 screws, and 2 holes (a large, and a smaller just above the display).

If motor/battery is dead you can use a straight pin, poking through the smaller hole to catch the cam and push it around to unlock. Might have to try a few times to get a good angle, and push at least 1/4". Then the unlock button should work again, and you can put the cover back on if you kept the adhesive clean.

Of course, none of these are guaranteed to work, at your own risk, do not try this without backup, etc. etc.
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gogglestars2 wrote:Charging them with a cell-phone wall charger may not work, I wound up using a USB port on my computer for charging.
I had a similar problem with the E72 mobile phone. It did not charge when the data pins of the charger were open. Annoyingly, some chargers are with and others without this undocumented feature.
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gogglestars2 wrote: Charging them with a cell-phone wall charger may not work, I wound up using a USB port on my computer for charging.
I can't see why that would be. The charge cable only brings the +/- leads of the USB to the device; the data pins are not connected to the little round plug at all.

I've got a little multi-port USB charger that I use for charging-without-data duties, which works fine. All it wants is 5-ish volts.
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