Backup release? But...

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Re: Backup release? But...

Postby Natale » 08 Jan 2015, 18:03

Tigg wrote: Now only time will tell if mine is truly a strong enough deterent for me

That would be a strong deterrent for me, a most ingenious low-tech idea! :D Much better than a bowl of oil as that would make such a mess one might hesitate too long in a real emergency.

And if the water/books plan isn't a strong enough deterrent, the same principle could be used for any semi-valuable breakable object- a vase or small statue for example.
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Re: Backup release? But...

Postby Sir Cumference » 08 Jan 2015, 19:12

Or use urine instead of water?

(To some that would of course just be a bonus :shock: )
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Re: Backup release? But...

Postby Tigg » 09 Jan 2015, 10:03

Natale wrote:And if the water/books plan isn't a strong enough deterrent, the same principle could be used for any semi-valuable breakable object- a vase or small statue for example.


I thought about the idea of something breakable, but then considered that that might too have it's own inherent safety risks, for example getting glass or ceramic all over the floor when you may well be bare foot or even flying shards of smething sharp could cause injury. Though of course it would only be in the case or an emergency and in the case of an emergency it would certainly be a much lesser risk than remaining bound. And if it works for someone and enables them to remain safer then that is also good.

Sir Cumference wrote:Or use urine instead of water?

(To some that would of course just be a bonus :shock: )


Great idea, you've given me the next way to up the ante is water alone doesn't prove effective enough (urine would certainly not be a bonus for me).
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Re: Backup release? But...

Postby Natale » 09 Jan 2015, 15:58

You have a point about breakable objects, rolling around in bits of broken glass might not be an ideal emergency escape, and the level of deterrence may be too strong, possibly causing one to hesitate a few moments too many in a real emergency. :|

Urine could be a great idea. (And it would be no bonus for me either!) :shock:
OR- I've reconsidered vegetable oil as a reasonably strong deterrent: it's non-toxic and not particularly flammable, messy but not so messy one would hesitate to use that route for an emergency. As for whatever fire hazard it may present- if flames have already spread to your 'safety spot', then it no longer matters what is in the bowl.
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Re: Backup release? But...

Postby dmichaelson » 01 May 2015, 00:19

Hey all ~

I run the CD Tray Release program (fantastic thing) on my laptop and my desktop, the latter being plugged into a UPS. I have a third release method: a cord going from my hand(s) to a set of keys to a can of paint with the lid loosened. I use latex paint on the emergency release. Being a water-based paint, it is non-flammable.

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Re: Backup release? But...

Postby G4K-DK » 22 Nov 2015, 17:03

Or something like this...

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mini-USB ... 36859.html

Could put a money bill into it, batteries in, wire a switch to it, instead of the switch on it, and have the key holding the switch off, remove the key, and it shreds the money.
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Re: Backup release? But...

Postby BornThisWay » 22 Nov 2015, 20:08

G4K-DK wrote:Or something like this...

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mini-USB ... 36859.html

Could put a money bill into it, batteries in, wire a switch to it, instead of the switch on it, and have the key holding the switch off, remove the key, and it shreds the money.


OUCH! that is brilliant. Or a series of high value paper money taped together. That would stop me from pulling the emergency release. How much money? How much is your life worth?
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Re: Backup release? But...

Postby G4K-DK » 23 Nov 2015, 17:54

BornThisWay wrote:OUCH! that is brilliant. Or a series of high value paper money taped together. That would stop me from pulling the emergency release. How much money? How much is your life worth?

Your life is priceless, but how much is the convenience of getting out early worth? As a backup, it would only "hurt" if it was used to not save your own life. :D Or that is at least how I look at it.
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Postby Keyless » 14 Dec 2015, 16:03

A long time ago
Munching wrote: so what I do is if I need to use a second release it has nasty side affects.
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This is my suggestion for an alternative to the bucket of nasty liquid emergency release. I have never liked that method as it has plenty of scope for an accident. I don't like the idea of destroying something, even in a desperate situation and you might be to reluctant to escape when you really need to. I think it is better to arrange some sort of punishment that fits the crime for an early escape.

The diagram shows a wooden horseshoe shape with small slots on the inside, near the open end. The horseshoe is the right size to accept a micro SD card in the slots, with the long dimension between the arms. Washers are fixed to one side (underneath in the diagram) to stop the SD card slipping right through. On the other side they have to be put on after the SD card is inserted. The closed end of the horseshoe is fastened to a fixed point by a light rope. Either you must not be able to reach it or you must not be able to remove the card once you are in bondage. There is a ring around the SD card, with a rope which goes to your bondage, so that you can release yourself by pulling the rope, breaking the SD card in the process (they are actually quite strong so you need to do a test, but the small capacity ones are quite cheap). Ideally, I think this should release you directly rather than allowing you to get a key. You might need some sort of hook or snap shackle to stop you pulling the rope accidentally, but you must be sure you can open this quickly and easily.

The SD card contains a file with a safe combination (photo or text). If you have not got the combination you are punished. For example, you could leave a copy of the combination at work or post it to yourself. You could use a combination lock, so that you have to try every combination if you haven't got the SD card. The safe might contain your car keys, so you have to walk or cycle to work. Perhaps it could contain the key to your underwear drawer, leaving you only a choice of very uncomfortable thongs dusted with itching powder for the following day. You could put your internet router in the safe so no internet until you can get the combination (or another router). I'm sure there are lots of other possibilities. It would be interesting to hear any ideas.

If you use a long combination you can probably use the device several times before you can remember all the numbers.

As usual, test it carefully to make sure there is no way the device can get into a position where you can't pull the rope to get free. I should say I haven't actually tried it myself as Mistress K is in control these days, so I don't need it.
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Re: Backup release? But...

Postby ilikepain » 19 Oct 2017, 11:35

Or you could do something that's simply costly (and possibly inconvenient). How about tieing the string to a laptop. My Mac cost nearly £2,000. If I put that in a high shelf and it meant I had to pull it to the floor then it would surely smash. Also highly inconvenient as then without a computer until it's fixed or replaced. It would surely need to be life or death for me before pulling the key over!! :lol:

Slightly less expensive I have just bought a locking safe. It's made of very thick plastic so in and emergency it can be broken with a hammer. However that's £45 down the drain. I haven't tried this yet but will do. I will put the key in the safe and keep a hammer too. Probably tied to it so it can't fall out of reach. :twisted:
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