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Alternative Release Method - [TCR] 'The Candle Release'

Posted: 24 Jan 2007, 03:10
by Shiva_in_Cuffs911
Hi guys and girls, ladies and gentleman!

I'm new here, and the first thing I want to do is thank Anna - for providing all of us self-bondage lovers with a safe place to discuss our beloved hobby and share our experiences and thoughts with eachother!


And now back to business..

I want to share with all of you my favourite release method, which I call 'The Candle Release'.

Now, I know that only the mentioning of fire - in any form - in relation to self-bondage causes alot of people to go mental, so to speak. But I want to ask all of you not to dismiss this method of release a priori. I am a very careful and considerate person, and believe me; If I had not tested and tried this method of release over and over again with good results, I would not even bother to let you guys know about it!

But, I have - as I just said - tried and tested this method ad nauseum with great results.

Is it fail-safe? If you ask me.. YES it is!
Is it dangerous? If you ask me.. NO it is not, not even the slightest bit!


Here is a picture, so you can judge for yourself:
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I think the picture - although I am a lousy drawer, especially in Paint - speaks for itself. If not, ask me!


I want to add a couple of obvious comments:

-Make sure there is not too much draft /replacement of air in the room. A candle flame can take quite a lot of it, but just make sure the candle will keep on burning.
Better be safe than sorry; close your window, place towel against the gap under your door, shutt off the ventilator etc.

-Make sure the candle is placed in a solid and stable 'chandelier', so that it can't fall over, under ANY circumstances.

-IF the candle falls, make sure it does so on a surface that doesn't burn; concrete, iron, steel etc. Make sure there is no carpet or vinyl surrounding the candle.
However, I guarantee you, IF the candle falls, the flame will be out long before the candle hits the surface on which it falls.

-Make sure the keys cannot detache from the 'pin with hole'. I advise to use a paperclip. Bend one end of the paperclip in a 90 degree angle, now you have a solid 'pin' which you can stick through the holes in the keys. Then you can slide the keys further 'through' the curved part of the paperclip.

-Make sure the 'pin' is long enough to prevent any melted wax to accidentally build up on the paperclip. So, make sure there is enough space between the candle and the 'rest of the paperclip'.
No, it won't prevent the paperclip from falling eventually, but it can prolong the session.


Ok, the last thing before you can begin:

Make the Pin - the part of the paperclip that sticks out - hot with a lighter. You can now push the hot 'pin' IN the candle, just pierce through the hard wax.

-Make sure you know how fast the candle burns [or don't if you like surprises].
For example: I have candles that burn 1 centimeter per 35 minutes.
So when I want a session of 1,5 hour, I stick the Pin 2,5 centimeter below the top of the candle [where the flame is].


Now you are ready to enjoy a hot session of self-bondage. Just light the candle, tie yourself up and Enjoy!


PS: the positions in the drawing are just to make the principle clear. Just make sure that when the wax around the Pin melts, the rope swings to where you can reach the keys attached to it.

Oh and if you don't trust this method of release, just try it while your not in bondage. Set the scenario up and go watch your favourite tv-show. Do it one time, five times, ten times...and see for yourself that it works. It does!!

Have fun!!!

Posted: 24 Jan 2007, 10:33
by chicken_minute
What happens if the candle goes out?
What happens if it falls over?

It's an elegant looking release method, but it's just not safe.

Posted: 24 Jan 2007, 16:55
by Shiva_in_Cuffs911
Hi chicken_minute,
Good questions, and very important too!


'What happens if the candle goes out?'

Well, the obvious answer is that if the candle goes out, you have to use your back-up release. However, that has never been the case with me! And I repeat: NEVER.

I didn't mention it in my opening post, but make sure you always have a back-up release you can use at all times [The motor-oil release for example], whatever your 'first' method of release is. I mean, even if you use an Ice-release there has to be a back-up release. So in that sense they are not very different.

Candles normally don't go out for no reason. Have you ever lighted candles in your livingroom? Have they EVER gone out?
To be honest, I have never seen it, ever. Even with moderate wind blowing in the room..



'What happens if it falls over?'

Just make it sure it can't. You know, in theory a skyscraper can fall over, but under normal circumstances it just doesn't. It's build to not fall over, and so is a heavy, solid and stable chandelier.
[And yes, september 11th was an exception indeed! But I don't think a plane will just come into your room and crash into your chandelier..]

Just don't put too much tension on the rope, just let it hang quite loose. The weight of the paperclip and the keys ar not enough [BY FAR] to make a stable and heavy chandelier fall over.

Use a chandelier with a big and heavy steel, or iron, foot to make sure the 'balance point' is low. [Hell, get some screws and pin it to the surface on which it stands, if you don't trust it. Make a special chandelier table if you want to..]

Use a chandelier with a deep hole for the candle, so that it just can't flip out of the hole.



EVERY release method has it's theoretical flaws. As for the Ice-release; The stocking can get stuck in the ring for whatever reason. But, it just doesn't. It's proven by the people who use this method again and again and...

Sure, if you don't trust it don't use it. It's as simple as that. I just wanted to provide all of you with a method I use over and over again, and which has never failed to work exactly as I presented it here on the forum.
So, If you don't have ice-cubes or clocktimers but you want to use a timed release, maybe give the TCR a try someday.

And as I said in the openingspost, just set up the candle and rope, play your favourite computer game UNBOUND, and see for yourself if it works.


Have fun and play safe,

Later!

Posted: 24 Jan 2007, 17:30
by LoRee
Had a T-girl friend who used a candle release once. The candle was blown out when the AC kicked on and she was stuck. She was subsequently caught by his wife as a result. IT WAS NOT PRETTY, or so I was told. A candle is doable, you just need:
A: A candle in a glass or jar. Use a long eye pin that is bendable for your release pin. Heat it hot enough so as to force it deep enough into the candle for your purposes. Make sure the keyring is heavy enough to extract the pin from the candle when the wax gets soft enough. Make sure to bend your pin so that the eye the key string is tied to is well away from the flame. The consequences of NOT doing this should be obvious.
Experiment by setting up this release mechanism first and see how long it takes for the key set up to pull free from the candle, before tying off. That's because most of these type of candles can burn for up to a week. Which means if you drive your pin too deep you could be stuck for several days.
B: Being raised Catholic I am VERY familiar with what I call a "Floating Globe". I'm not sure what the actual name of this is, but you can always inquire of your local religious supply center. It's a little brass or metal collar that seats over the head of the candle that supports a tiny open topped glass globe. This is designed to prevent the breeze from blowing your "Prayer Candle" out. However, you WILL need to use a heavy based candle stick with this. Be sure to seat your candle in it by pouring melted candle wax into the stick base just before mounting your candle in it. Also drive your release pin in at an upward angle with the key string attachment point the low end. If you stick it threw straight across, or with the key string attachment point the high end, IT WILL HANG THE COLLAR UP, AND YOU WILL BE STUCK!
Always be aware of the risks involved in what you are doing, and BE PREPARED TO PAY THE PRICE IF YOU FUCK IT UP! :evil: :roll: :oops: :P :x :shock: :twisted: :?: :!:

Posted: 24 Jan 2007, 17:44
by LoRee
Shiva_in_Cuffs911 wrote
But I don't think a plane will just come into your room and crash into your chandelier. . .
If a plane or anything else crashed into your room or chandelier, I think your release mechanism would be the least of you worries. :wink: :roll: :shock:

Posted: 24 Jan 2007, 18:13
by anna
While the administator of this forum (me) thinks that any use of fire is extremely dangerous (and therefore not suitable for selfbondage), she will let this discussion continue...

However, make absolutely sure that you clearly understand the dangers of this technique before using it.

Posted: 25 Jan 2007, 23:40
by jake
To be honest, if the ice release, or for me, the clock release is just as reliable, what is the need to add the extra danger of fire? It's an interesting idea, and it probably works, but just doesn't seem worth the risk of the fire hazard.

If the ice release goes wrong, it doesn't burn down your house.

Posted: 26 Jan 2007, 12:56
by misQui
I agree that the fire risk could be minimised, and I think that a major advantage of this method is that it could be timed reasonably accurately. Very interesting.

Posted: 26 Jan 2007, 13:40
by dracae
One could even put the chandelier in the middle of a large bowl filled with water. So even if the candle should fall, it will not set fire to anything.

Posted: 27 Jan 2007, 12:55
by LoRee
The candle release is actually the first release method I ever tried. While it can be used safely enough I had never mentioned it here to fore because the forum rules prohibited discussing it. However, when it came up I weighed in with what I knew from experience. Like Shiva_in_Cuffs911 I have never had a problem with it, but know of far too many who did. Knowledge IS power, so I always try to empower those who my want to emulate anything I post by being as detailed as possible with the more risky stuff. This form of recreation is like rock climbing or sky diving, there are always a certain amount of risk. You MUST be aware of the risks involved in what you are doing, and BE PREPARED TO PAY THE PRICE IF YOU FUCK UP!

Posted: 28 Jan 2007, 18:07
by Quantes
As sais, there are riske when you use thuis method. I wouldn't prefer it.

Posted: 30 Jan 2007, 03:13
by Curls
I am also a fan of using candles, and I find the wax very sensual. Especially at the same time as ice. Both at the same time!! I do however respect the wishes of Anna and apologize for posting my session on the forum. I was extremely excited and didn't think anything of it, and i apologize! Also i just found this whole conversation now too, and I now know why there isnt too much information on the whole candle issue anywhere. It is forsure more of a bondage with a partner method, where the partner can keep a watch on the flame, and not so much a selfbondage method!

Posted: 30 Jan 2007, 21:32
by LoRee
Curls wrote:
i apologize! Also i just found this whole conversation now too, and I now know why there isnt too much information on the whole candle issue anywhere.
Curls, dude I don't think you have any need to apologize. First; you boldly venture against the prevailing sentiment against this form of play, and got some yield on the prohibition. While I respect Anna's wish not to discuss wax play, I think that prohibition was wrong and am tickled shitless to see her give some latitude on that subject.
Second; I have used candles in self bondage wax play on at least a dozen occasions. However, your wax play scenario is damn near perfect. I would say it is by far (for the most part) "THE" safest way to do it. It covers nearly every problem associated in an SB wax play scenario. (Will post what little improvement to be made perfect under wax-tub fun thread)
This scenario is just the opposite of that knuckle headed suggestion about taping a plastic bag around your head then tying your hands behind your back. No sir, your's is real genius and you should be proud of it. :mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

Posted: 30 Jan 2007, 22:45
by neo
LoRee wrote:The candle release is actually the first release method I ever tried. While it can be used safely enough I had never mentioned it here to fore because the forum rules prohibited discussing it. However, when it came up I weighed in with what I knew from experience. Like Shiva_in_Cuffs911 I have never had a problem with it, but know of far too many who did.
How many do you know "who did"?

Posted: 30 Jan 2007, 22:52
by neo
LoRee wrote:Curls wrote:
i apologize! Also i just found this whole conversation now too, and I now know why there isnt too much information on the whole candle issue anywhere.
Curls, dude I don't think you have any need to apologize. First; you boldly venture against the prevailing sentiment against this form of play, and got some yield on the prohibition. While I respect Anna's wish not to discuss wax play, I think that prohibition was wrong and am tickled shitless to see her give some latitude on that subject.
The problem (and benefit) of internet access to a forum like this is that any newbie could stumble through here and try something out they are not ready for, or without fully thinking it through.
As I read Anna's comment in this thread, she's concerned with the suggestion of having a source of fire burning (a candle) while in a self bondage scenario. That seems entirely reasonable to me.
If it tickled you shitless that a comment on safety was made before allowing the thread to continue, then I'd suggest you go start your own forum somewhere else, or failing that, attempt to sound a little less arrogant in your writing style.