with all the boards about tieing oneself up this was bound..

Post by **ponylady** » 21 Jan 2008, 17:11

...to happen.

http://www.chimerabondage.com/Start.html

yup, a paysite exclusively devoted to selfbondage.

but it looks like these models should use a tip or 2 from in here.

Warlock · Post by **Warlock** » 22 Jan 2008, 03:48

looks interesting ... will have to have a proper look through tomorrow.

First impressions are that it is a touch amaturish

Post by **bound_jenny** » 22 Jan 2008, 04:15

I rummaged through the preview sections and found nothing that inspired me to part company with any cash (I don't really do that anyway).

The models seem to be more talented at looking slutty than actually acting convincingly the part of someone stuck in self-bondage. This is obviously targeted at men who are less interested in the bondage itself than in the exposed genitalia.

Honestly, what else brings in the bacon? Certainly not artistic merit - artists are starving all the time.

I'm interested in the art, the overall picture of the damsel in distress - that's what inspires me and makes me envious of what I see. What I see there does not inspire me.

Jenny.

huve · Post by **huve** » 22 Jan 2008, 17:08

I agree with Jenny, there is an artform associated with SB, however its always good to learn some new techniques. A large block of concrete, an electro magnet release, and how do they make those spanking machines??

Post by **ponylady** » 22 Jan 2008, 19:18

bound_jenny wrote:I rummaged through the preview sections and found nothing that inspired me to part company with any cash (I don't really do that anyway).

The models seem to be more talented at looking slutty than actually acting convincingly the part of someone stuck in self-bondage. This is obviously targeted at men who are less interested in the bondage itself than in the exposed genitalia.

you are right of course, jenny.
*that's why the rolledeyes in my post*

because i have seen so much BDSM porn over the years without paying.
*let's not go into details, but say that most webmasters are more interesting in banging their models than securing their sites, so i didn't have to part with money*

that site is a joke, but it is the 1st paysite i've seen that exclusively
caters to the selfbondage crowd, even if it is bad.

there are, for bad examples:

http://www.gaggedinpublic.com/
http://www.snotgirls.com/preview1.html

you can find anything on the net, but only a couple of sites that show
they are real enthusisats about bondage.

jim weathers bondagecafe, chastitiybound, privatebondage are such sites.

bound_jenny wrote: Honestly, what else brings in the bacon? Certainly not artistic merit - artists are starving all the time.

LOL,

i fully comprehend your point, jenny. men & women "see" images differently, and since 99% of the online buyers are men this is what
what is produced. being a CD i may not have the "normal" man's perspective. but 99,99% of the bdsm porn i see online is boring and i even don't bother downloading it for free. sometimes it can be source of inspiration, but this is rare.

only gord *who really is an artist, btw* or erestraint come to mind as
captivating paysites.
*here is another interesting site, and it is for free, doesn't has a members section: http://www.jg-leathers.com/Home/index.htm . this one really shows enthusiasm*

bound_jenny wrote:Honestly, what else brings in the bacon? Certainly not artistic merit - artists are starving all the time.

at least gord ain't starving.

bound_jenny wrote: I'm interested in the art, the overall picture of the damsel in distress - that's what inspires me and makes me envious of what I see. What I see there does not inspire me.

those sites are out there, but one has to be willing to spend the extra effort in locating them. it ain't easy. however if you find them, you will be rewarding by incorporating some of their stuff & solutions into your own
fantasies & scenarios.

Post by **anna** » 22 Jan 2008, 22:33

Generally speaking (writing) I would say that making a pay site that deals with selfbondage is extremely hard. Selfbondage is not something that you can see, it is something you feel. How do you show that in a photo or in a film?

ponylady wrote:there are, for bad examples:

http://www.gaggedinpublic.com/

It might be far from perfectly executed but I love the idea behind this site.

Bound&Helpless · Post by **Bound&Helpless** » 22 Jan 2008, 23:42

Indeed, the only reason i would ever watch a SB movie was to try and get more ideas on how to perform on myself.

Grinser · Post by **Grinser** » 23 Jan 2008, 00:15

I love watching a woman getting into selfbondage, be it a model or (preferably) a live performance starring my girl

What turns me on about it is that the feeling you get about the woman`s motivation is completely different than with "normal" bondage.
In a standart bondage scene, the girl gets tied up and then tortured, teased, tickled, fucked... whatever the audience/the dom(me) desires. Most of the girls are struggling and squirming and in many videos they appear to be in that situation against their will. Such videos can be nice, that`s for sure, but if I am watching a girl getting into selfbondage, I can tell she not only enjoys being bound, she even craves it so much, she will do it to herself frequently. I really like that thought, this craving and/or the willingness to get into selfbondage to please her dom(me) makes a woman very attractive in my eyes.

Post by **bound_jenny** » 23 Jan 2008, 02:56

Anna wrote:Generally speaking (writing) I would say that making a pay site that deals with selfbondage is extremely hard. Selfbondage is not something that you can see, it is something you feel. How do you show that in a photo or in a film?

Right on the mark, Anna!

Self-bondage is a very personal experience, where the deepest, most sensual aspects of our souls are exposed.

The solitary helplessness is perhaps the most compelling sensation of all, knowing that you are completely trapped for a set amount of time, immobile, powerless, exposed, vulnerable. The senses are heightened, every little noise becomes a source of frantic speculation. What was that creaking noise behind me? Did I just feel a slight draft? Is there someone looking in the window? Who's there? You can't cry out because you're gagged. The heart races, adrenaline flows, you struggle in a futile attempt to get free before your imaginary danger closes in on you. Welcome to Heaven!

You are in control of the scenario, but powerless to do anything from the time you commit yourself until the release is delivered, at the mercy of a machine or of the forces of nature. Total relinquishment of control, but by a conscious choice. You are both sub and Dom(me). Time stands still inside your little universe.

When the key finally drops to your waiting hands, you hesitate to release yourself, because you don't want this wonderful feeling to go away, afraid that it might never come back.

No picture or video can convey that.

Jenny.

rubberbandballgag · Post by **rubberbandballgag** » 23 Jan 2008, 03:40

not impressed...

that's all i can really say about it. i guess pictures just aint my thing anymore.

it's all as Anna and Jenny explained, there's nothing that can portray what goes on inside someones head when they SB. Of course, i'm going to start learning telepathy now just so i can see what's going on inside others heads. i think Jenny would be a good read for a start, delightfully twisted.

i like grinsers point as well, that someone would tie themselves up as a present, allowing whatever may come of it and simply enjoying it. that's the kind of present you could *really* enjoy.